This best of is in honor of my sister, who is due in March. Love you Bick.
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Dear Frugal Upstate,
Well, I saw your web-site and was hoping you could offer up a few ideas for being frugal when bringing home a new baby. I love the tightwad gazettes and have gleaned info from all of them. I have a baby registry so friends and family can spend what ever they want on my baby. I have scoured the local thrift stores for clothes and such, and have come up with a few good deals.
The part that hits me is that my house is small, and bringing home baby with no place to put his baby stuff, leaves me wondering how much of this stuff is needed. The baby superstores recommend that you buy one of everything. The other mothers in my circle of friends recommend the things that worked great for them.
This is my first baby, and I don’t know what will work great for me. However, I thought that if I don’t have the item at all, then I could make do with something else. I could multi task with some items. I really need some ideas.
I plan to breast feed, for health and frugality. I planned to use cloth diapers at home and only use disposables when we are going out. So far I planned to skip the burp cloths and just use the cloth diapers for everything. I made my own baby quilt from my old work shirts. The shirts were well worn, so they are very soft now. I have purchased used clothes in many sizes. I bought shoes a little big, on clearance.
I am 6 and a half months along and I have until Thanksgiving to get ready.
Any Ideas?
Allymonami
Congratulations Allymonami! Having your first child is such an exciting event. Also a stressful and tiring one. It sounds to me like you have a good start on the whole baby thing! You are obviously smart enough (and frugal enough) to realize that the stores are in it for the money, and that any suggestions they make have to be taken with a huge grain of salt. Sounds like common sense-but when an expecting mother is being bombarded with everything that they “need to have” from friends, relatives, magazines etc-well, lets just say you get kudos for looking at things so clearly.
Ohh, there is just SO MUCH to say on this topic. I can’t fit it all in one post! So I feel a quick mini series coming on. Today I thought I’d address a few things connected with breastfeeding. Tomorrow I’ll talk about feeding an older baby, then on Saturday I’ll tackle the rest of the paraphernalia.
I want to start out by applauding your decision to breastfeed.* I did with both of my kiddos-Princess for 1 year, and Buddy for about 10 months. I would like to pass along some advice that was given to me by a girlfriend when I decided to breast feed. She said “If you are going to try it, then promise to try it for two weeks straight”. I’ve got to tell you, that was some of the best advice I ever got.
Why? Well Princess was a very strong sucker-and I didn’t know to bring breast cream to the hospital. I quickly cracked and bled-and honestly, for about the first week I actually CRIED when she was feeding because it HURT. If I hadn’t promised myself and my friend to wait out the two weeks, I probably would have given up.
But you know what? By the end of the two weeks it was very noticeably better (although still sore) and I knew that I was going to do fine. With Buddy, we just went gangbusters from the beginning with no problems at all.
So all of that is to say that I think it is a great decision, but I would highly recommend buying some Lansinoh breast cream. I recommend that particular brand because you don’t have to wipe it off before the baby nurses-you just slather it on when needed and don’t have to think about it again. Most major retailers (Target, Wally World etc) and drug stores carry it-if you don’t see it, ask the pharmacist. It isn’t cheap, but you won’t use too much of it, so you can keep it for the next kiddo.
A more low tech, frugal way that I dealt with breast pain was to use tea bags. Yup, plain old tea bags. I was told by a nurse friend that their is something in the tannin in tea that eases the pain. So I bought some of those large round tea bags (the ones you use to make a whole pot of ice tea), steeped it for a few minutes in some hot water, let it cool just a bit, and then placed it inside my bra. This was very soothing while the teabag was warm. When the heat went away, so did the relief-and it doesn’t do anything to help you heal like the Lansinoh does. But if you are sore and have a stash of teabags, you may want to try it. Be careful though, tea stains very badly (actually in theater tea dyeing is used to make whites just a little less white-pure white can be too blinding on stage) so I would put a layer of cling wrap between the bra and the tea bag.
Now, even though you are planning on breastfeeding, I would go ahead and sign up with the major formula companies online-Similac, Enfamil, and even Parents Choice (the Wally World brand). They each have either a “club” or just a free sample offered. For the clubs, I filled out the form to let them know I was planning on breastfeeding-and it resulted in a larger sized sample than my girlfriend who said she was planning on formula. They will also send you some pretty good coupons to start with (initially things like $5 off, then $2, then $1–the denominations get smaller over time as they have you hooked).
Why am I suggesting this? Well, with my kiddos, I wanted to make sure that if for some reason I wasn’t around to be able to feed them, that they would be able to take formula.
Also, I would like to point out that there are really 3 choices for feeding your baby. You can breast feed, you can use formula, or you can do both. Yes, you read that right! Magazines etc would lead you to believe that it is all or nothing, but you can actually do a combination. Now, in order to do both, you really have to make sure that your milk production is doing well, so you can’t start combining until you’ve been doing it for a couple of months. And of course whenever you are around the baby full time than you should feed full time to help build back up your supply. Warning-they will probably need to nurse more frequently on the weekends than you would expect because it takes the body a few times to figure out to produce more milk. But the body is an amazing thing, and it will adapt to producing milk at the times and in the amounts that their is demand for it.
I myself breast fed at home exclusively for the first 2 months (with an occasionaly ounce or two of formula just to have them taste it-see below). When I went back to work I breastfed at home, pumped at work. I would take the milk I had pumped and use it for the next day’s bottles. Since I was never sure how much they would eat, I would prepare the bottles I thought they would use, and then I would prepare one more bottle that was pure formula. I would label it with masking tape “formula, use last” and usually they wouldn’t use it at all. But I could rest assured that if they were having a hungry day they would have the extra, and I wouldn’t have breast milk coming home that I’d have to throw out. (Trust me, when you pump that stuff is liquid gold).
In the later months when my supply started getting less, instead of having to quit totally, I was able to supplement the bottles with formula to stretch out the amount of breast milk (when you have to pump at work for 10 months, and can only breast feed in the mornings and evening, plus weekends, your milk supply isn’t always the best).
With all that in mind (and the fact that of course I am not any kind of baby or health care professional), I recommend thinking about your lifestyle and seeing if their are any reasons that you may want to either have frozen breastmilk on hand, or have your child able to drink formula. Now formula and breast milk taste VERY different (have you ever smelled each? Breastmilk smells fine, formula smells nasty) so if you want them to be able to take either, you will want to think about having them try a little bit of formula occasionalLy starting pretty early (like 6 or 8 weeks maybe?). If a child has never had formula at all, and you try to introduce it late, they may refuse to eat it at all.
Now you didn’t say if you were planning on working, or were going to be staying home. If you are planning on working and pumping, I would highly recommend spending the money for one of the better double pump machines. (I had a Medela Pump in Style). Pumping at work is a pain in the neck. There is no way around that. But a better quality double pump will work much faster-and the faster you can do it, the more likely you are to continue with it. Even if you are planning on being a stay at home mom, you may want to consider a pump, just so you can pump milk and have some in the freezer (It’s nice if you are planning on going out for the night etc)-the Avent Isis manual pump has gotten pretty good reviews.
If you are going to pump and freeze milk for any reason, you don’t have to use those expensive “breast milk bags”. You can just use zippered freezer bags. Pour the pumped milk in, zip (squeezing out extra air), mark the date with a sharpie, and lay flat in the freezer. Once frozen you can stand them up, like a book, so they take up less space. The added bonus is that the milk defrosts quickly in a bowl of warm water because it is spread so thin.
I found a Boppy to be very useful when nursing-and you can usually pick one up at yard/thrift shops or borrow one from a friend who is done nursing. Bought new they cost about $35 (that’s the plain pillow with a slipcover), so if you can’t buy one cheap or borrow one, it’s would be a good thing to register for-not too cheap, not too expensive. You can of course just use a pillow to get the baby to the right height for nursing, but the way the boppy wraps around your waist just seems to make it more secure and easier-especially since you don’t have to rearrange the pillow when you switch the baby from side to side. You can lie a baby in it to prop up their head and shoulder, and use it when they are older to prop them up a bit on their tummy.
More Tomorrow!
*Note: Lest the flaming begin, let me say that the decision on how to feed your baby is extremely personal-what works for each mother (and baby) is different. Although I do truly believe in the health benefits of breast milk, I don’t think that you are harming your child in any way by bottle feeding. Also, if you are miserable breastfeeding it then you are setting up a bad situation for you and your child. I myself breast fed at home, pumped at work, and then in the later months supplemented the bottles with formula to stretch out the amount of breast milk (when you have to pump at work for 10 months, and can only breast feed in the mornings and evening, plus weekends, your milk supply isn’t always the best)









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You may want to be careful with the teabag trick if using the saran wrap. You generally want to be careful to allow good air circulation to help prevent yeast (thrush) from growing. But, it might be that the tea will also inhibit the yeast growth.
Just a suggestion on feezing of breast milk…
I froze mine in (really) clean ice cube trays (some were 1/2 ounce and some were 1 ounce ice cube trays)and then placed 4-6 cubes in the feezer zip type baggies, removed air and dated. Quick and easy to thaw under running cool water and less waste. Also works great when the baby starts cereal and you can thaw a cube or two to mix with the cereal!
I bottle fed my first two babies. It was okay–I guess at the time. I breast fed my 2nd and last two babies. That was so very much superior to bottle feeding. I wished I had breast fed my first two, but at the time (early 60′s) it was frowned upon. I mentioned it to my doctor and he told me that it was such a mess, and he recommended that I not breast feed. Blasted male doctor. What did he know.
The bonding with the last two babies was much better than with the first two. Our finances were also much better with our last two, so I was able to be a stay at home mom for a couple years with them.
I’m now a granny of 66 years, and taking care of my grandson since he was 5 weeks old. His mom chose to go to work and chose to bottle feed him from birth. I have to admit with a bit of selfishness that I enjoyed bottle feeding him. I held him with each feeding, though. I often propped my first two for their feeding as recommended.
I applaud all moms who breast feed, but do know that if you can’t, you can still bond with baby by holding baby EVERY time you feed him/her –if you can.
Regards, Peg
Here is a link with a video giving instruction on how to achieve a good latch on right from the beginning. This should help avoid nipple soreness in the beginning. (But please be aware that some of the soreness is due to hormonal shifting, not just latch issues, and should dissipate within a week or so)
http://www.ameda.com/breastfeeding/started/latch_on.aspx
That said, please, be VERY, VERY careful about supplementing with formula too early on. It can really be detrimental to your milk supply.
I gather from your post that you are a teacher, as I am. From what I was told my schedule would be last spring, for this school year, I will only be able to pump once a day, as they scheduled me with my prep and lunch being back to back (despite being made aware of my need to pump multiple times a day, and thus the need of a lunch and prep period separated by a couple of hours! But I digress).
Luckily, my son will be 7 months by the time school starts here. He is eating some solids, and we will have some goat milk on hand in case he drinks all of my pumped milk and wants more. Yes, that’s right, Goat’s milk. It is easier to digest than cow’s milk, and very close to human milk in composition. However, I am hoping to be able to pump enough for him.
Ways of increasing milk supply vary. When home, I intend to nurse him as freqently as possible; I will also be making sure that I am drinking enough (at least a half gallon of water daily), and resting enough, and if I feel my supply is dropping, will be taking some of the Traditional Medicinals “Mother’s Milk” Tea (as icky as I find all teas, it is just too important to me to nourish my child with my own milk). Those tips are helpful for most women.
Anyone having supply issues that are not quickly corrected by the above tactics should consult with their health provider as there are different health issues that impact on milk supply – PCOS is one, hypo-thyroidism is another (I know this as I’ve known moms that both happened to)
I realized in re-reading my comment that it sounds like I think you are still nursing. I realize you’re not, but wanted the information out there for anyone starting out.
becky-The tea bags are only on for like 10 min, not all day or anything, so I wasn’t really worried about thrust. But if someone does have any kind of flare up, obviously discontinue!
Darlene-ice cubes would work well too. I liked the baggies cause I could defrost with them still frozen, then snip off a corner and pour right into the bottle without having to touch anything unsterile.
Peg-I appreciate your insight, having done both. Obviously I preferred the BF, and I encourage everyone to give it a very strong try, but I realize that it isn’t for everyone.
Judy-Ha! Actually I’m not a teacher, I was a US Army Officer while I was working full time and pumping. The breast milk in the office fridge did freak the guys out a bit
Obviously I encourage folks to be careful-but I didn’t say to supplement early-simply to give them a taste occasionally. I didn’t start supplementing till they were several months old and my milk was established. With the sending bottles in-if I defrosted them and sent them in and the breastmilk wasn’t used, then I had to throw it out at the end of the day. So rather than send an extra bottle of breastmilk each day, just in case, I sent the last bottle (1 more than I actually thought they’d eat)clearly marked as formula just as insurance.
In addition to all these great tips I wanted to add that there are plenty of baby things for FREE. Check out your local FREECYCLE.ORG of CRAIGSLIST.ORG under the free section. I am now a grandmother and I have all the baby equipment here for when they come to visit and I got it all free! Good luck & congratulations on your upcoming baby!
I am sorry but I don’t agree with the advice of freezing milk in cubes and then in a bag. I am married to a food scientist and we are all about food safety around here. Freezing in cubes and then putting into bags allows for too much contamination. And trust me I have breastfed and pumped at work for a year and I HATE the thought of milk going bad. That’s why I like the idea of pouring milk directly into the container where it is going to be kept frozen.
Also, while using regular food freezer bags may be cheaper, the bags are bigger and take up more storage space.
Raising the frugal baby is one of my favorite topics. Great pointers Jenn.
One pregnant woman to another:
Buy the Lansinoh NOW! It’s great for breast sensitivity during pregnancy!
Good luck.
I ABSOLUTELY agree one of the most important things is to stick with it for a specified amount of time (it took us 6 weeks to get it down pat) and ask for help if you need it! Most hospitals offer free lactation consultation during and after discharge for mothers who deliver at their location. You might also inquire as to a support group if you’re interested, most hospitals have them.
I got a tube of lansinoh in the hospital, so it couldn’t hurt to ask, but it’s definitely worth the cost! Make sure your nipples are completely dry before applying it.
I second (or third?) the tea bag suggestion, but I preferred them chilled in the frige for a bit, rather than warmed, so definitely experiment and see what works best for you.
I would suggest looking for a good used pump. The manufacturers don’t recommend reusing pumps, but as an engineer their claims make no sense. (The nurses and lactation consultants agreed with me on that) You should be able to find a good used double electric pump for around $50 (pump in style or equivalent) on craigslist. If you have friends who aren’t using theirs, definitely ask if they will sell it to you! I was lucky enough to have a friend give me hers.
Cabbage leaves stored in the fridge and then worn in the bra for an hour or so are also great for pain.
I had a C section and my milk didn’t come in for 11 days during which I was using a pump but had to feed with formula. Unfortunately by the time it came in toots was hooked on a bottle and no amount of coaxing would get her to try anything else. I persevered trying for a full day and then gave in because I couldn’t stand to see her hungry. In hindsight maybe if I’d hung on a little longer she might have accepted it, but after trying a dream feed and she still wasn’t playing ball, I caved and gave her a bottle. The pain I had was more from swelling and having to wait again for the milk to subside but the cabbage leaves helped a lot.
leanne-I believe that the cabbage leaves should only be used if you are trying to dry up your milk supply-I think that there is a chemical in them or something. However I’m not 100% sure. If anyone is interested in trying that tip I would highly suggest researching it.
LOL! It was the 10 month reference that made me think that.
I’m very blessed in that dh stays home with our little Busker, so there’s no sending anything, and he takes bottles out of the freezer as needed.
Thanks for the special post, just for me! Will you do the rest of the series for me??? Pretty please?
Love you!
Vic
I was told the same thing about cabbage leaves. I’ve heard good things about using frozen peas to make cold packs as needed. I actually got some gerber breast therapy pads that were designed to be chilled or warmed. They worked very nicely chilled in the beginning and then warmed when I was dealing with mastitis. However, I was told by a lactation consultant that you can also put water in a crockpot on low and put a number of washcloths in and rotated them as needed for heat. But the breast pads made for less mess.
Hospital lactation consultants can be a great source for cheaper bfing equipment. At our hospital they sell supplies much more cheaply than any other retail locations since they aren’t trying to make a profit on those items. You could get boppies, lanisoh, pumps, bras, etc.