All the Things I Forgot to Say.

by Jenn @ Frugal Upstate on February 6, 2008

Note~edited to add the missing link to the knee surgery article

Yesterday Meredith from Like Merchant Ships did a podcast interview of me. It was very cool to actually hear the voice of someone who has become a good online friend :)

If you have come over here for the first time due to the podcast-WELCOME! I hope you’ll browse around a little and find something that interests you. If you need a place to start, this welcome post I wrote a little while back has quick links to a bunch of my popular articles.

As is the way with things like live interviews, when I was able to hear it as a listener I realized that I didn’t really address all of the questions that Meredith asked. Luckily as a blogger I have the perfect platform to fill in all the things I forgot to say!

Here we go!

Meredith asked how I track my expenses. We were discussing the “write down everything you spend for a month” method and we never got back to that question. In truth, YB and I don’t really track all of our expenses. We sort of subscribe to the philosophy from “The Wealthy Barber”. We take care of our savings and investments, our necessities and bills, and then we allow ourselves some leeway with the money that is left over. Obviously I don’t recommend this method to anyone who is trying to get out of debt-in those cases you do need to tightly track what you are doing. But this works for us-even if it doesn’t seem very frugal. Another way to describe what we do is “budgeting by the force“.

I mentioned a post I had read about a couple renting a cooler thing after the husband had knee surgery, and blithely assured you all that I would post the link. This morning I scoured my blogroll-do you think I can find the darn article? Please, whoever wrote that post, if you see this let me know! Thanks to Tamara I have the link; the article is from Frugal Babe

Meredith mentioned that her weakness is books and asked what mine is. I’m afraid I came across a bit “holier than thou” because I couldn’t really think of any! Honestly, I assure you I have plenty of faults! I gave up buying books years back. I literally (no pun intended) read about a book every 2 days most of the time-it was getting expensive. Now the local library supplies my fix.

My two biggest weaknesses are dollar stores and “good ideas”. It is not unusual for me to go into a dollar store and spend anywhere between $20 and $40 dollars. Granted, they are usually things that I can use, but not necessarily needs. I curb this by trying to limit my trips to once or twice a month. The good ideas are harder to explain. Sometimes I will be seized with the idea to do a specific project. I will have a burning desire to purchase or acquire all the supplies to do it. Then they will sit there for months before I get around to using it (or else not get used). I try to curb the impulse, but it still happens sometimes.

I realized that some of the things I said in regards to our budget and the new house seemed contrary. In one spot I say we are going to fully fund our IRAs, and in another I state that we are stopping funding our retirement. To clarify-we have for the last 3 years been maxing out the additional retirement investment opportunities at YB’s work. That is the part that we have stopped until we get a handle on our new expenses. Obviously we would like to restart that as soon as feasible. The earlier we save, the longer it has to increase.

Moving our shed is another issue that might not have been clear to some folks. The shed in question is the largest sized shed that could be installed on our property without a building permit. You could literally fit two cars end to end in the shed with a little room to walk along each wall. We bought it for storage at the old place (remember, it was half the size of the new) and considering that it was a several thousand dollar investment, a couple of hundred to have a big flatbed truck with a winch move it is very reasonable. I realized that some of you might have been imagining one of those little sheds you buy at Lowe’s and wondering why we were spending so much money to move it :)

I mentioned planting in hay bales. Here are some articles on that in Hay Bale Gardening Becomes Popular Pastime, Straw Bale Gardens and Straw Bale Culture Techniques .

Lastly in regards to gardening saving us money. I do think it saved us some money-especially since I garden organically. That is to say I’m sure I spent less than if I bought organic produce a the store or farmers market. This is still a work in progress. This year I wound up with canned salsa, zuchinni pickles, zuchinni relish, peach and raspberry jam (those were bought at the market and pick your own respectively-NOT ORGANIC). I froze zucchini, both shredded and sliced (mostly from my friends garden), I froze 3 large batches of tomatoes that I still need to defrost and process into sauce and chili sauce, and I dried a bunch of grape tomatoes and then froze them (those were both from a friend and the CSA), and I froze shredded cabbage and freezer cole slaw (from CSA). We ate a good amount of fresh Chard, fresh green beans (oops, froze some of those too), fresh sugar snap peas, fresh lettuce etc from the garden in season. I also had sage, basil and cilantro growing. Oh yes, and I got free apples from my good friend and made 4 large jars of applesauce. I would have done more, but we were moving-there really is only so much time in a day.

My intent really is to grow more of what we eat, but this year I’ll probably supplement from the local farmers market and friends gardens. My garden always seems to be a work in progress!

Are there any other questions that I left unanswered, or that you would like to hear more about?

Thanks for listening and reading!

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Christine February 6, 2008 at 12:41 pm

I have to say ! I just found your blog and listened to the podcast and can’t wait to explore your blog more! I too, live frugally in Upstate NY!

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Anonymous February 6, 2008 at 1:30 pm

Great info. I have some trouble at Discount stores and Thrift shops buying things I may not need but, it sure is fun. Annette

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Tamara February 6, 2008 at 5:36 pm

I know this one! I know this one! Here is the item about the cooler for the knee.

http://frugalbabe.com/2008/02/02/durable-medical-equipment-an-igloo-cooler-with-hoses/

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Jenn @ Frugal Upstate February 7, 2008 at 5:00 am

Thank you Tamara! That was driving me crazy.

Christine-It’s great to hear from another upstate frugalite. As I said-it’s rare to meet one :)

Annette-glad you enjoyed it :)

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Carrie J February 7, 2008 at 7:09 am

We have the same weakness. I have a work room full of great ideas. I have told my husband to remember that I am not allowed in Hobby Lobby alone. LOL
In fairness, I do use most of my supplies. I limit myself to just a couple of hobbies and do not allow myself to try anything new on impulse. I give myself at least 2 months to think about indulging in a new hobby before I will allow myself to buy supplies.

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SavingDiva February 7, 2008 at 11:58 am

What could you possibly spend $40 on at a dollar store? WOW!

I’m impressed with your gardening. Since I live in an apartment, I don’t have any space…so I rely on my local farmer’s market.

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daily dirt manager February 7, 2008 at 1:02 pm

Jenn, I have been visiting your site since the summer. Listened to the podcast while folding laundry. I thought it was great both you and Like Merchants Ships are inspirations. Would love to hear more. Did a price book on Aldi’s and your absolutely right it wins hands down. take care
kate

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SweetCultivator February 12, 2008 at 12:55 am

I thought I was the only one that had those “great idea” urges and had a well-stocked pile of UFOs. Nice to know I am not alone. I am curbing that impulse by writing down the ideas in a notebook instead of acting on them. They are then ready for me when I am ready for them. when the impulse seems strong than reason, I get really mean to myself and remind myself of the things I have given up to pay off the debt/save / achieve financial stability.

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R February 12, 2008 at 3:42 pm

Thanks for posting the haybale gardening links. I was planning to try to research that after you mentioned it and you saved me tons of time. Thanks again!

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Anonymous February 12, 2008 at 5:00 pm

First comment here, though have stopped by occasionally. Longtime reader of Meredith’s blog.

New to frugality as a lifestyle since autumn ’07.

Thanks for the link: I HAVE NEVER HEARD of ‘Budgeting by the Force’! The perfect description of the way we handle our money. Being small business owners sometimes income is lean and sometimes bountiful. Conventional budgeting wisdom has always been frustrating, assuming a reliable paycheck.

You are a great resource, looking forward to more.

deb meyers

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Jenn @ Frugal Upstate February 14, 2008 at 6:59 am

Carrie J-I try not to go into craft stores myself. They are way too tempting. One of my goals for this year is to use up stuff from my stash rather than buy anything new. The exceptions are things like the fabric for the new curtains and valances.

Saving Diva-It’s amazing how fast it can add up, I frequently buy cleaning supplies, plastic bags, makeup, toiletries etc. Add in some holiday specific decorating items, school/office supplies and socks for the kiddos and you can be right up there!

Kate-glad you enjoyed it! I’ve been thinking that with all the fluctuations in prices lately (due to the increase in transportation costs etc)that I really need to do a price book again. I’m pretty sure that Aldi’s will win again, but it is better to price check occasionally rather than make assumptions. (plus my Aldi’s is 30 min away, so gas cost is an issue)

Sweetcutlivator-oh no, you are not alone my girl! The writing ideas down is a good tip!

r-glad to be of help. We’ll both have to try it and see how it goes!

Deb-so glad you found that link useful. This link might also help you:

http://www.ncnblog.com/2007/09/12/how-to-create-a-budget-if-you-have-irregular-income/

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Jerry February 15, 2008 at 12:43 am

I really admire your resolve to grow more of what you eat – it is the best insurance against processed foods, and you know exactly what you are eating! It sounds like you have a bigger garden space than we do, but we made great strides this past year in growing our own lettuces, hot peppers, tomatoes, broccoli, and kale. It’s better than having to buy what they are selling at the markets (especially for organic foods), and it’s delicious!
Jerry
http://www.leads4insurance.com

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frugalbabe.com February 18, 2008 at 4:18 pm

Thanks for the mention about the ice machine we got for my husband’s knee. He’s three weeks post-surgery now, and recovering very well. The ice machine for his knee has been a HUGE help.

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